Ñòðàííî, ÷òî íèêòî íå óïîìÿíóë G.G.F.H.
Ïîñëóøàéòå êòî íå çíàåò è áóäåò âàì ñ÷àñòèå.
Îòàë, òåáå íå ïîíÿòíî ÷òî èìåë â âèäó Ñàòèð??
Ñïàñèáî, äà, ïóñòü òàê. Åñëè áû îòâåòèë íà ìîé ïîñëåäíèé òåáå âîïðîñ, âîîáùå çàìå÷àòåëüíî.))
Âåäü ïîïðîñèë íèêîãî íå âû¸áûâàöà â ýòîé òåìå.
Òåìà î÷åíü èíòèìíàÿ, ëè÷íàÿ. Ðåøèë âîò ê âàì îáðàòèòüñÿ çà ïîìîùüþ ÌÍÅ, à íå âñåìó ÷åëîâå÷åñòâó ( ÃËÎÁÀËÜÍÛÕ ÐÀÑÑÓÆÄÅÍÈßÕ) â êîíöå êîíöîâ, ïîñëå äîëãèõ áåçóñïåøíûõ ïîèñêîâ îòâåòîâ íà ñâîè âîïðîñû õîòÿ áû ïî ïðèâåä¸ííûì 4 ïðîåêòàì.
Áëàãîäàðåí òåì, êòî óâàæèë öåííîñòè ÷åëîâåêà, ïîïûòàëñÿ ïîíÿòü, ïîäåëèëñÿ çíàíèÿìè,
îñîáåííî Xiii33 è Kveldsulf, ðàä çíàêîìñòâó.
Roland, NaSoK, kir, Most Illusive Fish, Othal, The NumBe. È âàì!
Ñêàæó ÷åñòíî, îòâåòîâ îäíîçíà÷íûõ ìàëî. Íó... è òî ëàäíî.)
È åù¸ íå î÷åíü ïîíÿòíî, ïî÷åìó òàê ìíîãî íàðîäó ñòàâèò çíàê = ìåæäó âåðîé â Áîãà è ðåëèãèÿìè.
Òåïåðü, äóìàþ, çíàþ, ê êîìó èç âàñ ìîæíî áóäåò îáðàòèòüñÿ çà ïîìîùüþ.
Òàê ñêàæó êîðîòêî ïðî òåìó : ÿ íå ìîãó âêëþ÷èòü äî÷êå, êîòîðóþ ïûòàþñü âîñïèòûâàòü íå íà ó¸áèùíîé ìóçûêå èç òåëåâèçèðà, èñïîëíèòåëåé, ïîþùèõ ïñàëìû äüÿâîëüùèíå. Ìîæåò õîòü òàê, êòî íå âüåõàë, ïîéì¸ò.
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2 Menora. Îáåùàííîå áóäåò?
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Åñëè êòî åù¸ (ïî äåëó) âûñêàæåòñÿ, çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí.
Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàë(à) - Atellite; 02-03-2007 â 23:25
Âñþ òåìó ïîêà íå îñèëèë, õîòÿ âðîäå èíòåðåñíî...
Âîïðîñ: êòî òî, Êâåëüä âðîäå, çàÿâèë ÷òî ñðåäè ýëåêòðîíùèêîâ ñàòàíèñòîâ íå áûâàåò... Ýòî åù¸ ïî÷åìó??? Ïî÷åìó âû îòêàçûâàåòå ìóçûêàíòàì â ñåðü¸çíîñòè ýêçèñòåíöèàëüíîãî íàïîëíåíèÿ íà îñíîâå ÿêîáû "íåñåðü¸çíîñòè" æàíðà? Çíà÷èò Âèêðíåñ ñàòàíèñòîì áûòü ìîæåò à Ðàòöèíãåð íåò???![]()
àâòîðó: ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ Õîöèêè, Âàìïñêóòà (íîâûé àëüáîì êë¸âûé) è ÂÀÊà òî äóìàåòñÿ òóò âñ¸ îäíàçíà÷íî. Íåëüçÿ òåáå èõ ñëóøàòü![]()
À ïîñîâåòóþ íåòðèâèàëüíûé ïðèìåð: åñòü â Ðîñòîâå ãðóïïà Èåðîôàíèÿ. ×óäíûé íîéç\èíäóñòðèàë âëó÷øèõ òðàäèöèÿõ ðàííåãî ÏèÎððèäæà. Íàñòîÿùåå áåçóìèå, íà êîíöåðòàõ ðåæóò âåíû, äðî÷àò, èçáèâàþò ïóáëèêó, ïîêàçûâàþò ñíàôâèäåî è ïðî÷. Îáà íåäàâíèõ ìîñêîâñêèõ êîíöåðòà ïðåðâàëà àäìèíèñòðàöèÿ ïóò¸ì îòêëþ÷åíèÿ åëåêòðè÷åñòâà. Áûë óâåðåí ÷òî ýòî æóòêèå ñàòàíþãè. íî âî âðåìÿ ñîâìåñòíîé ïîïîéêè ó ìåíÿ äîìà âûÿñíèëîñü ÷òî îíè ðàäèêàëüíûå ïðàâîñëàâíûå è òàêèì îáðàçîì èçãîíÿþò áåñîâ è íåñóò áîæüå ñëîâî. Âîò òàê. Ñîâåòóþ![]()
Ñåé÷àñ ó ãóãëÿ ñïðîøó. Ìíå âñåãäà êàçàëîñü, ÷òî Ðàòöèíãåðóñ Ýðèêñîíîì íà òåîëîãè÷åñêèå ïðîáëåìû âñåãäà ïîëîæèòü ñ ïðèáîðîì áûëî.  îòëè÷èè îò Âèêåðíåñà, ó êîòîðãî áîãîáîðíè÷åñòâî - ÷òî-òî âðîäå ôåòèøà áûëî. Õîòÿ è ó íåãî áîðüáà óæå íå ñ Áîãîì âî èìÿ Ñàòàíû, à ñ õðèñòèàíñòâîì âî èìÿ èñòèííîé ãåðìàíñêîé âåðû. Ýòî Ôåíðèç ó íàñ ñàòàíèñòÈçíà÷àëüíî îïóáëèêîâàíî ihatehuman
Âîò ÷òî Ðóäè Ðàòöèíãåð ïðî èäåîëîãèþ â ñâîåé ìóçûêå ãîâîðèò:
(Âóìïñêóò íå ãîâîðèò ëþäÿì, ÷òî äåëàòü - ÿ âñåãî ëèøü ðàññêàçûâàþ èñòîðèè. ßñíî îäíî - ìèð óìðåò. ß íå ëþáëþ îñîáî êîíöåíòðèðîâàòüñÿ íà ñöåíàõ ðåàëüíîé èñòîðèè. Äëÿ ìåíÿ âàæíî ñîçäàâàòü ìóçûêó íà âñå âðåìåíà. Ïîêóäà ìû æèâåì â ýòîì ìàòåðèàëüíîì ìèðå, ëþäè áóäóò èñêàòü ìàòåðèàëüíûå âûõîäû èç ìàòåðèàëüíûõ ïðîáëåì. Âóìïñêóò òîæå ìàòåðèàëåí, õîòü è ñîçäàåò ÷òî-òî íåìàòåðèàëüíîå - îáðàçû â âàøåì âîîáðàæåíèè. Ìîæåò, ýòà ìóçûêà ïîìîãàåò ëþäÿì îñîçíàòü ñåáÿ ñìåðòíûìè, ìîæåò, äîâåäåò êîãî-òî äî ñàìîóáèéñòâà. Ìåíÿ âñå ýòî íå îñîáî âîëíóåò ïîòîìó ÷òî ÿ íå ìîãó ïîçíàòü ìèð âî âñåé åãî ïîëíîòå. Ãîðàçäî âàæíåå ðàñøåâåëèòü ëþäåé. Íà èñòîðèþ ÿ ñìîòðþ ñ ýòîé ïîçèöèè)S: You have spoken of your work as nonideological. Isn't the dystopian, apocalyptic element itself ideological in that it sees the current political-economic order as irredeemable?
R: :Wumpscut: does not tell people what to do. I am just a storyteller. Be sure: The world will die. I do not like to refer too much to scenes from real history (apart from "Untermensch"; and "In the Night"). For me it is important to create music that can be timeless. As long as we live in this physical world, people will look for physical solutions born out of physical problems. :Wumpscut: is physical as well, although it creates something immaterial: your imagination. Maybe this music helps some human beings to make up their minds about being mortal, maybe it drives some to commit suicide. I do not care too much about this since I cannot experience the world in its totality, not in any detail. The most important thing is to MOVE the people. My approach to history is of this kind.
È ïðî "ñàòàíèçì" Ðóäè Ðàòöèíãåðà
http://bad.eserver.org/issues/1998/37/sharrett.htmlS: You speak a great deal about "evil"; the crucifixion, etc. Do you believe in god?
R: No.
Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàë(à) - Kveldsulf; 03-03-2007 â 17:27
 îáùåì, Ðàòöèíãåð - áèçíåñìåí, êîòîðûé èñïîëüçóåò ýïàòàæ, ÷òîáû "ðàñøåâåëèòü ëþäåé" è ñîáðàòü ñ íèõ ïîáîëüøå áàáëà.
Ãîòèêà - ýòî âîîáùå áèçíåñ. Äâîðîâûå ïåñíè - âîò ýòî òðó-èíäè
Íåîáõîäèìîå óòî÷íåíèå.
Îáåùàííîå îò Menor'û ïîëó÷åíî.
Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàë(à) - Atellite; 03-03-2007 â 22:32